[Video Games] That time KanColle wikia got fake DMCA'd

It's mostly abandoned now after several unpopular moves by the Fandom admins but those are stories for another day (probably). As a central ... Foundtheinternet!r/HobbyDramaPostsWiki126Postedby3monthsago[VideoGames]ThattimeKanCollewikiagotfakeDMCA'd HobbyHistory(Short)BackgroundKantaiCollection(艦隊これくしょん)orKanColle(艦これ)forshort,isaJapanesewebbrowsergameaboutmanagingafleetofandromorphicWorldWar2erashipsdevelopedbyC2Kikan.PublishedbyDMMGamesin2013,it'sbecomesomewhatofanationaliconinJapanwithregularcollaborationswiththeMaritimeSelfDefenceForceandseveralcitiesthathousedoldWW2navalbases.It'sknownforbeingveryJapan-centricwiththeinternationalfanbaseprettymuchbeingignoredbythedevelopers.TheEnglish-speakingcommunitycongealedaroundthe[KanColleWikia](https://kancolle.fandom.com/wiki/KanColle_Wiki).It'smostlyabandonednowafterseveralunpopularmovesbytheFandomadminsbutthosearestoriesforanotherday(probably).AsacentralrepositoryforallthingsKanColle,thewikiahostsplentyofartandsoundassetsrippeddirectlyfromthegameaswellasartthatthedeveloperspostontheirTwitterfeed.AlsotangentiallyrelevanttothisdramawastheongoinglawsuitbetweenSega(developersandpublishersofKanColle'sarcadespin-off)andMorningTec(developersandpublishersofAbyssHorizon,ablatantKanColleArcaderipoffformobile).ShortlypriortotheDMCA,SegaandMorningTecsettledwithMorningTecagreeingtoexittheJapanesemarketthoughstillpublishingAbyssHorizonglobally.TheDMCAOn16/01/2019,Fandomadminsreceiveda[DMCAtakedownnotice](https://lumendatabase.org/notices/17986215#)fromsomeonepurportingtobeanagentofKatagishiKenichi(片岸憲一),thenCEOofDMMGames.Accordingtothem,theyverifiedthelegitimacyoftheclaimbeforenukingallartassetsfromtheKanCollewikiaon30/01/2019in[thisannouncement](https://kancolle.fandom.com/f/p/3461976197955818662).Threateninganyonewhoreuploadedthemwithaban.NoticehowonlyartassetswereDMCA'dwhenthewikiaalsohadvoiceandmusicassetsrippedfromthegameaswell.TheDramaTheaccusationswerequicktoflywiththeEnglish-speakingcommunityblamingeveryonefromMorningTectoAzurLane(arivalgamewithsimilarconceptthatgainedbettertractioninternationally)trollsto"TheChinese"(thegamehashadahistoryofDDOSattacksfromChineseIPs).SadlyIdon'thavesavedarchivesoftheDiscordconversationssoplacateyourselveswiththeannouncementthreadfrom[thesubreddit](https://old.reddit.com/r/kancolle/comments/al63va/misc_there_seem_to_be_some_dmca_issues_regarding/).FurioustweetingensuedwithplayersbombardingtheofficialdeveloperTwittertorespondtothisDMCAclaim.AbunchoffrustratedKanColleWikiaadmins(theoneswhomanagetheKanCollewikiaitself,notemployeesofFandomwhostartedthiswholemess)werenowleftwithabunchofbrokenimagelinksandscramblingtoformulateaplanonhowtoproceedgoingforwards.AspertheusualoperatingprocedureofFandom,theyhadthisproblemdroppedontheirlapswithnoheadsup.TheAftermathJustadaylater,thedevelopertwitter[responded](https://twitter.com/KanColle_STAFF/status/1090779006348156928)tofanoutcrystating:[NOTICE]CurrentlyKanColleManagementNavalBasehasnotfiledanyDMCAapplicationornotice.Pleasebewaryoffalsenotices.Furthermore,whilenotrelatedtotheabove,wewillcontinuetotakelegalmeasuresandcooperatewithauthoritiesregardingobstructionofbusinessand/ormaliciousharassment.Followingthis,Fandomlegalcounseldeterminedthatatweethad[enoughlegalbasis](https://kancolle.fandom.com/f/p/3461976197955818662/r/3462912601489643444)torescindtheDMCAandreinstatealltheartassets.Andthus,everythingwentbacktothestatusquoforthetimebeing.30commentssharesavehidereport97%UpvotedSortby:best level1·3mo.agoIt'sknownforbeingveryJapan-centricwiththeinternationalfanbaseprettymuchbeingignoredbythedevelopers.Offtangent,butthedevelopers'decisiontonotlocalizeKantaiCollectioninternationallyprettymuchspawnedanentiregenreofgames.ThepostmentionsAzurLaneandAbyssHorizon,butinthe"warshipsascuteanimegirls"spacealone,therearealsoWarshipGirlsR,BlueOath,BlackSurgeNight,andprobablyadozenmoreI'vemissed.Tosaynothingoftransplantingtheconcepttoothermilitaryequipment,liketanks(PanzerWaltz,ArmorBlitz),planes(VirginStrike,ProjectCERIS),firearms(ShootingGirl,Girls'Frontline,ProjectSilverWings),etc.blamingeveryonefrom[...]AzurLane[...]trollsto"TheChinese"Funnythat.DuringlastyearChinesecensorshipcrackdowns,IheardgachagamescommunitiespointingfingersateveryoneelsefortattlingtotheCCP.TherewassignificantamountofKanCollebashingintheearlydaysofAzurLane,though.Eventherulesforr/AzureLanespecificallycallsitout.Nowadays,theattitudeseemstobemore"Idon'tknowwhypeoplewanttoplayKanCollewhenbetteralternativesexist".61ReplyShareReportSaveFollowlevel2·3mo.agoIfIhadanickelforeveryvideogameabouthistoricalwarships/tanks/airplanesasanimegirlsI'dhavelikeadollar27ReplyShareReportSaveFollowlevel2Op·3mo.agoTherewassignificantamountofKanCollebashingintheearlydaysofAzurLane,though.TherewassignificantbashingofALontheKCsubreddittoo.Enoughthatit'sataboosubjectonthesubredditaswell.Itwasn'thelpedbythetrollsfrombothcampsvisitingtherivalsubtostirshit.Ifeellikeit'sdieddownoverthepasttwoyearsthough.21ReplyShareReportSaveFollowContinuethisthread level2·3mo.ago·edited3mo.agoThetwothatIrememberedwasPacificWorldWarII(whichisjustanartbook,yes,butevenastheinternationalcharacterdesignhasgottenmoretastefulthanIowa,it'sstillthecanonicallookoftheUSNshipgirlsforme)andVictoryBelles(whichjustkeepspostingabunchofshipprofileswhilenotdeliveringonthegameuntilitdied).ItwashonestlypuzzlinghowmuchKCdidn'twantinternationalpeopletoplaytheirgame.Thequotasystemwasstupidasheck,andIactuallylostmyfirstaccountbecauseitwasfromoneofthose"batchaccountgiveaway"shitsoituseda5minutemailorsomethingsoIcan'tresetthepassword/confirmtheaccount.Thephoneappsalsotookwaytoolongaswell,andtheystilldon'thaveEnglishlocalizationunlike,say,GranblueFantasywhichsimilarlystartedasabrowsergameasKCdid.Theanimewasmediocre,butaccountingforthemovie,itdidhaveadecentending...afterlike3+yearsoftheoriginalanime,whichshouldhavebeenincorporatedintoasingle2-courrunwiththeanimeinsteadofjumbledmessthatwastheanime(completewiththeasspullappearanceofTaihouasadeusexmachina).KanColleis,Iswear,theverypictureofaJapaneseinventionthatmanagedtomiraculouslypullaheadofeveryoneelseinspiteoftheirgeneralGalapagosSyndromeissue,thenhadthatGalapagosSyndromeissuerearitsassbackwardheadmakingthemsquanderallthefirstmoveradvantagetheyhave.ItmightaswellbetheposterchildofhowJapanesegachagamejustletsthegachamarketgoestotheChinesegachagamesdespitealltheadvantagetheyhad.12ReplyShareReportSaveFollowContinuethisthread level2·3mo.agomy2cisthatkancollewasmeanttoappealtoanimeotaku(yourtraditionalanimefan)andmilitaryotaku(thetypeofguywhomayormaynothave8differentcombloccamosintheirclosets)aboutequally.TheKancolleclonesrealized(correctly)thatoneofthosetwogroupsisfarmorelikelytopaymoneyforajpeg,andsotheydeprioritizedthemilhissidewhilefocusingmoreontheanimesidewhichleadstosomeprettyfundamentaldifferencesinartdirection,characterization,andmostimportantlymonetization(kancolleforexampledoesnothaveadirectpaidgacha)andit'sprobablyagoodthingthatkancollenevertriedforaforeignrelease,sinceiftheforeignshipsinkancolleareanyindication,nobodyonthekancolleteamhasanyideahowtoresearchorwritenon-japaneseships7ReplyShareReportSaveFollowlevel2·3mo.agoOhman,thebashing.ItwassignificantenoughthattothisdayIdon'tplayAzurLaneoutofpurespite.Atbestitwashonestdiscussionaboutgamedesign,andatworsttheywereaccusingusofbeingfascistsandpedophiles.MostofthatmoreextremestuffwashappeningonDiscord,though,butifyouscrolluphardenoughonsomeofthoseserversyou'regoingtofinditinspades.5ReplyShareReportSaveFollowlevel2·3mo.agoKancolledoeshavenamerecognition.3ReplyShareReportSaveFollowContinuethisthread level1·3mo.ago·edited3mo.agoAh,yes,Wikia.Wikiaistheposterchildforthecancerofmodernwebdesign,takingthefunctionalifsomewhatdateddesignofWikimedia'sMediaWikiframework-whichafreshcoatofpaintcanfreshenupascanbeseenbyWikiwand,Wikiless,andeventheMobileWeb/App-intotheabsolutebloatofJavaScriptmesswithdistractingbackground,uglycolorsthatdoesn'tevenworkwellwithDarkReader(oreventheirowndarkmodereally),waytoodamnmanyads,godknowshowmanytrackersbeingaprivacynightmareinthebackground,andotheruselessstuffthattakesbothspaceandresponsiveness.TheonlyreasonwhypeopleusethemisconvenienceandSEOperformanceofwhichtheyusuallyareatthetop.I'mgoingtobehonest:Iactuallyrejoiceeverytimesomethinglikethishappens,becausethenthepeoplethatmattersmigratefromthesite,makingadifferentwikithatisn'tWikiaandthusfreeofitsmess.en.touhouwiki.netisstilloneofmymostfavoritewikiever,andfactthatitlooksgood,isinsanelycomprehensive,loadsfast,anddoesn'tneedjavasciptfornormalbrowsingareplusesthatmakesmewisheveryotherwikiwasliketouhouwiki.IgetwhypeopleuseWikia,butfuckWikia,Ihopetheywillburnandpeoplecangetbacktoenjoyingafree(inthebeer,freedom,andscreenrealestatesenses)wikiexperienceastheWikiMediawasmeanttobe.47ReplyShareReportSaveFollowlevel2·3mo.agoRemember,Fandom'sentirebusinessmodelis"haveunpaidlaborproducecontentforourprofit"22ReplyShareReportSaveFollowlevel2Op·3mo.agoFunnyyoushouldmentiontouhouwiki.Thecurrentkancollewikiisbeingrunbymostofthesamepeople.Someofthewikiastaffsplitoffbackin2014/15andtriedpoacheveryonebutmoststayed.Therewasabitofrivalrygoingonbetweenbothwikisbutthatsettledintoaworkingrelationship.TherewereafewmoreincidentsthatcausedmoreandmorestafftodepartfortheotherwikiwithonefinalFandomfuckupthatcausedtherestoftheseniorstafftoabandonthekancollewikiaforgood.16ReplyShareReportSaveFollowContinuethisthread level2·3mo.agofandom/wikia(asinthehostthing,notthetrendoffandomwikisingeneral)wasamistake.itusedtobeagoodwaytostartawiki,butnowit'safuckingnightmarethat'sslowlytakingovertheinternet.iswearthereareextremelyquestionablegamewebsiteswithlessintrusiveadvertisingthanfandom/wikia.myadblockblacklistisprobablyagoodhalfofanygivenpage'scode.iweptwhentheymergedtheminecraftgamepediaintominecraftwikia,nottomentiontheplethoraofissueswhentheymergedthelgbtq+wikis...ugh.12ReplyShareReportSaveFollowlevel2Commentdeletedbyuser·3mo.agoContinuethisthread level2·3mo.agoIrecognizethatalargefractionoftheinternetiskidswithliterallyzerodisposableincometoworkwith-Ispentaboutadecadebeingoneofthem:p-butifyoudohaveafewsparebucks,gettingyourownhostingforawikiisnotexpensive,anditletsyouhavecompletecontroloverthethingwithouthavingtoworryaboutFandom's...everything.(Youwillstillneedtoconcernyourselfwiththepoliciesofwhoeveryou'rebuyingyourhostinganddomainnamefrom,butyou'vegotplentyofoptionsthere,youcancertainlyfindonethatsuitsyou.)I'msurecostsscalewiththesizeofthefandom,sothisisprobablylesseasythanitsoundswithanythingtrulyhuge,buttherearealotoftinylittlefandomsthatcouldbenefitfromthisapproach.4ReplyShareReportSaveFollowlevel2·3mo.agoIpersonallylikereadingtheSpanishPokemonwiki,Wikidex.It'swaybetterthanallotherwikis,andit'smaintainedoutsideofFandomWikiasoithasnoneoftheissuestheyhave.IdunnohowBulbapediaismaintained,butIalwayshavesomegripewithhowitfeelstonavigateit,Ican'texplainit.2ReplyShareReportSaveFollowlevel1·3mo.agoAhKC,thedyingeggthatcould'vebeensomethingbig.Almostcompletlyforgotten.GladIbarelyplayeditsincegameplaywasawful.IpreferAZoveritjustforthatandthenot-same-facesufferingartstyle.ThoIstoppedplayingthatonealongtimeagotoo.Ijustcantwarmuptogaccha10ReplyShareReportSaveFollowlevel1·3mo.ago·edited3mo.agoOhwow,fancyseeingyouhere,NotLeyana.IthasbeenalongwhilesinceI'velastplayedKC.Howhasitbeensince2016?IrecallIstoppedshortlyafterSummer16.5ReplyShareReportSaveFollowlevel2Op·3mo.agoStillthesameolsameol.Doevents,getgirls.Prettymuchtheonlyreasontoplayallthesekindsofgameshasbeenthegirls.YamatofinallygotherKaiNilastweeksocan'tsaywe'reshortoncontent.3ReplyShareReportSaveFollowlevel1·3mo.agoImsurpisedI'venotseenmorepostsaboutKChere.IremembertherebeingsomuchwhininganddramagoingonintheWikiadiscord(especiallythatwholeToleranceLevelBreakdownActionordealthatbasicallykilledthediscordserverforabit)Praiseshibafu4ReplyShareReportSaveFollowlevel1Mod·3mo.agoThankyouforyoursubmissiontor/HobbyDrama!Wehaverecentlyupdatedourrules,pleasecheckthesidebartomakesureyou'reuptodateoryourpostmayberemoved.Ifyouarepostingahobbyhistoryortale,remembertoflairitappropriately.Ifitotherwisedoesn'tqualifyforafullpost,pleasefeelfreetopostaboutitinourweeklyHobbyScufflespost!Iamabot,andthisactionwasperformedautomatically.Pleasecontactthemoderatorsofthissubredditifyouhaveanyquestionsorconcerns.2ReplyShareReportSaveFollowAboutCommunityr/HobbyDramaThemostinterestingsubredditaboutthingsyou'renotinterestedin993kMembers442OnlineCreatedJun6,2018JoinBacktoTop 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